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February Meeting for Erie County Chapter of SCOPE is NY SAFE Forum

A NY SAFE Act Educational Forum will be held at the February SCOPE Meeting Feb. 20 Doors Open at 6:30 pm @ The Chicken Coop 299 Leydecker Rd, West Seneca, NY *FREE Admission To Event*

Forum will include:

 RAFFLE* of 500rd box of Remington 22lr Thunderbolt High Velocity Lead Round Nose & Saiga Carbine

 Ammunition Laws & Registration Requirements

 Presentations on NON-COMPLIANCE, HISTORY & MODIFICATIONS

 VOTING & Why its so important

 Question & Answer Segments

– Speakers –

Joe Mesler (President 2ACWNY) Stephen Aldstadt (SCOPE) Gia Arnold & Mattie Zarpentine (NYR), Dan Devlin (Oathkeepers) Don Hey (Western New York Talks) Tony Matuszak (Citizens Taskforce) , and various FFL

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The Second Amendment (Unabridged)

The SCOPE motto asks the question;  What part of infringed don’t you understand?

‘A well-regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’

Translated for those that just don’t understand.

  • The sentence does not restrict the right to keep and bear arms, nor does it state or imply possession of the right elsewhere or by others than the people; it simply makes a positive statement with respect to a right of the people.”
  • The right to keep and bear arms is not said by the amendment to depend on the existence of a militia.
  • The right is assumed to exist and is unconditional.
  • The Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States unconditionally protects the people’s right to keep and bear arms, forbidding all governments formed under the Constitution from abridging that right.

READ MORE at this link.

THE UNABRIDGED SECOND AMENDMENT

by J. Neil Schulman

 

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Essay on NY S.A.F.E. by Keith Kappel

Comment: There are two things to do when you’ve made a political calculation that backfires. The techniques apply regardless of whether it’s a law you’ve touted that caused unintended consequences or when an appointee or elected official you supported turns out to be an embarrassment.

In the case of unintended consequences simply unleash a barrage of statistics to support that you have done the right thing and they don’t have to be accurate or relevant. If it’s an individual who is a problem then circle the wagons, heap praise on the persons accomplishments and see that they are given prestigious awards and praise.

A year after the passage of New York’s infamous Safe Act, a spokeswoman for the governor declares that the numbers are indisputable – the Safe Act has enabled the state to better protect New Yorkers. “There have been 1291 charges under the new law with 1155 for felony firearms possession, formerly a misdemeanor, with 1041 of these cases (81%) in NYC, mostly Brooklyn and the Bronx. Separately, 17,751 people have been charged this year with misdemeanor weapons possession, almost 90% in NYC. These charges includes other weapons such as switchblades, blackjacks and brass knuckles.” No cause and effect correlation is provided to demonstrate which components of the SAFE Act were responsible for these enforcement actions.

Said proclamation of the SAFE Act as a success is unsupported transparent nonsense and a shallow attempt to provide cover to the Governor.

Details of the felony weapons charges noted above have not been disclosed. Interestingly, the ban on so called assault weapons doesn’t take affect until January 15 so I suspect the 1291 arrests were primarily for possession of unregistered firearms which would have occurred without the SAFE Act. Also not reported was the disposition of these cases in terms of follow up prosecution.  Law enforcement I’ve spoken with often state their frustration with weapons charges being used as plea bargaining chips. In addition, the announcement fails to provide a breakdown between firearms, switchblades, blackjacks and brass knuckles. The 17,751 number sounds like a red herring thrown in to obfuscate and pump up the laws effectiveness.

As Nancy Pelosi said “…we have to pass the law to find out what’s in it!” Pass it the Governor did in the dark of night with no opportunity for debate or input. The response from the public was and continues to be loud and strong – Repeal It! Note that tens of thousands of Repeal the Safe Act signs permeate front yards across the state. In addition, 52 of 62 New York counties and 225 municipal governments have passed resolutions in opposition and Sheriffs across the state have said they will not enforce. Billboards have been placed in Albany as a constant reminder to our legislators of what upstate thinks about this legislation. Seems like a lot of folks found out what’s in the bill.

Lets take a look at independently published crime statistics and assess where this law is directed and whom it truly affects:

Homicides in NY State in 2011 totaled 767. Of these only 5 were committed with a rifle of any kind and 76% occurred in Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and NYC.
Nationally, of 12,996 homicides in 2010, only 2% were committed with a rifle of any kind.
The 1994-2004 Assault Weapon ban was a failure which did not contribute to a reduction in crime. Violent crime in the US has continually declined from 1990 to the present – it is down 49% while the population of firearms has increased by 100%.
The vast majority of violent crime occurs in cities with populations of 250,000 or more and are primarily drug and gang related.

There is a cultural component to violent crime that the politicians want to deflect attention from because it speaks to the failure of many government policies and programs. Statistics from the US Department of Justice, FBI Uniform Crime Report and the National Youth Gang Survey Analysis show some frightening facts:

In 2008, black youths who make up 16% of the youth population accounted for 52% of juvenile crime arrests including 58.5% of arrests for youth homicide.
A 2009 study disclosed that 49% of gang members are Hispanic/Latino, 35% are African American with 9% white and 7% other.
Between 1980 and 2008, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicides and whites 45.3% – this in the context of blacks representing less than 14% of the US population.

Clearly, the crime problem is primarily an inner city demographic occurring in larger metropolitan areas and are drug and gang related. Instead of dealing with this the politicians demonize an inanimate object with an emotion charged label of assault weapon. The SAFE Act fails to deal with the real issues and instead criminalizes people for what they lawfully owned prior to its enactment. It further penalizes and encumbers the law abiding for the simple acts of buying ammunition or giving a firearm to a family member.

Key components of the SAFE Act include a ban on so called assault weapons, a ban on magazines that exceed ten round capacity, a requirement that firearms be loaded with no more than seven rounds , background checks for ammunition purchases, severe restrictions for firearms transfers unless a background check is performed, confiscation of private property (without compensation) from the owners upon their passing and registration with the state of ALL firearms owned by a person upon their passing.

There is no justification in any statistics or independent study to indicate any of these elements are, can be or have been effective in addressing crime or criminals. On the contrary, there is substantial evidence that these make criminals out of the law abiding. Case in point is the singular arrest for the illegal sale of a so called assault weapon when the seller was co opted  into consummating the sale the day after rather than the day before the law took affect.

The so called assault weapon ban is absurd on two counts. First and foremost no one can define an assault weapon beyond certain cosmetic features. Second, such firearms are used in an insignificant number of crimes unless you count the ones given by the US Department of Justice to the Mexican Drug cartels. According to the SAFE Act, a firearm is prohibited if it is a semi automatic with a detachable magazine and any one of the following;  bayonet lug, a flash suppressor, muzzle brake, barrel shroud, grenade launcher, protruding pistol grip, protruding forearm grip, thumb hole stock or adjustable stock. Characteristics which have nothing to do with the function of the firearm. I had to dispose of the thumb hole stock that came with my M597 Remington target grade 22 and replace it with a standard stock to “de Cuomo it” and avoid registration and eventual confiscation.

The Safe Act trashes the Second Amendment rights of the law abiding and ignores the fact that the law will not be obeyed by criminals. Unfortunately, it is not about crime and criminals but it is about control.<

Wyoming County Chapter

Wyoming County

Wyoming County SCOPE

Chairman- Mark Yount II

Email- mark@wyomingcountyscope.org

Email- info@wyomingcountyscope.org

Phone- 585-322-3144

Website- www.wyomingcountyscope.org

Meetings are held at the Wyoming County Department of Social Services Building (DSS) every 2nd Thursday of the month beginning at 7:00 pm.

The DSS is on ​Doody St. across from Tim Hortons in Warsaw N.Y.

 

Exercise your first amendment rights – TO PROTECT YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!

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Shot Heard Round New York

Firefighters from the surrounding Rochester area will have breakfast at Golden Boys Diner in Webster at 9:30AM. This is a rallying event for all local firefighters who oppose the un-S.A.F.E. Act (please limit breakfast crowd to firefighters). Rochester’s Ch 10 will be there to cover the event and interview firefighters.
After breakfast everyone is invited to join the firefighters at the Ontario Rod and Gun club for the “Shot Heard Round The State” event. Everyone is welcome to participate at the shoot at noon at the Ontario Rod and Gun Club. Please bring your own hearing and eye protection.
Link for directions to Golden Boy restaraunt: Click here to see map to Golden Boy
36 W. Main St. in Webster
Link to Ontario Rod and Gun Club: Click here for Ontario Rod and Gun Club site
Please check back here frequently for details, as the details may change:http://www.waynecountyscope.org/BookingRetrieve.aspx?ID=196147

Tell us what your club or group is going to do on Jan 11.

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The Right Side

MARCH 15, 2017

IS DUE PROCESS A LOST CAUSE?

The SAFE act is once more generating news. There is a bill is in both the Senate and the Assembly to make a change, not in wording, but in geography. The bill proposes that the law is limited to New York City and those in Upstate New York are not affected by it. It is similar to the way the Sullivan Bill works on handgun possession. Two different sets of rules on gun ownership.

From the recent news about the criminal misuse of handguns in Buffalo and the increase in homicides since the law was passed, it would indicate that it isn’t working to cut deaths by criminals using guns. The answer is actually pretty simple. Criminals don’t obey laws and the good people don’t need to have their rights infringed. They definitely are not a problem.

The law does nothing to keep criminals from getting guns anymore than the drug ban keeps addicts from getting heroin. However, in politics perception is reality. So, if enough people are conned into believing the law will reduce violence, the politicians without scruples will vote for it. The whole motivation is votes and reelection. In New York City the attitude regarding guns is much different than it is upstate.

The upstate gun owners are used to having guns for hunting and target shooting as well as believing they have the right to self-defense and wish to be able to have a viable means to do it. New York City has a contingent of politicians who try, and often succeed in convincing the voters that the government will take care of them.

The legislative power is in the Assembly and there are enough Democrat votes Southeast of the Tappan Zee Bridge to pass any bill and to even override a veto. The power is there and naturally, that is the house with the most abuse. What the Democrats want, the Democrats get. They wanted more gun control and they got it.

Now that there has been a long enough period to see it doesn’t work, there I a huge effort to get the law repealed. That won’t happen, so since politics is the art of compromise, this bill is offered. The people in New York City get a law they want and the people in upstate get rid of one they don’t want.

The SAFE law makes it impossible for the Amish to buy a gun because of the universal background check. It requires a photo ID to get the NICS background check and the Amish religion forbids the photo taking. Therefore they are denied the ability to legally purchase a gun. The Amish are known to be a very law abiding, peaceable and non-violent society. We wonder why the politicians don’t want them to have guns.

Another problem with the law is that on only a report, a person can lose four Constitutional and civil rights. The big problem is that they can lose these righs without due process. A false report from a hospital or from a doctor, nurse or social worker saying thet believe the person is a danger to themselves or others. can cause the loss of Second Amendment rights. They don’t need the intervention by a psychiatrist or parapsychologist and there is no hearing to challenge the report. That is a very significant problem.

SCOPE (Shooters Committee On Political Education) initiated a law case on this issue. It is called Montgomery v. Cuomo and has been languishing with delays caused by the state. This is an indication that they are not optimistic about winning and hope that the plaintiffs will give up. The plaintiffs are waiting for the SCOTUS to be filled soon in case the lawsuit has to go that far.

It is simple to determine from an outside viewpoint. The fact that due process is in the Bill of Rights and also in an amendment to the Constitution should be reason enough to repeal at least that part of the bill. Nobody should be denied any rights without due process, but the State of New York believes that they should be able to override the Constitution. It would seem that the legislators who voted for the bill have the same opinion.

When the new bill comes out of committee, it will be interesting to see how the Assembly Speaker prevents it from coming to the floor to be debated. The Assembly has a tradition that no bill gets debated unless the Speaker approves it and he wants it to pass. It is a New York City passion that only their approval of any bill should get consideration. This also opens the door for back door deals in order for upstate legislators to get any of their bills passed. Good old Quid Pro Quo.

How far this will go remains to be seen. The odds are that it won’t get out of the Assembly committees although it has a chance in the Senate. There are many one house bills that are used to help legislators in their reelection campaign. They can tell their constituents that they tried, but the other party was responsible for it failing. Just another campaign strategy.

From the time of Tammany Hall, the Albany legislature had been an inspiration for the TV show “Let’s Make A Deal.” Politicians have been known to be arrested, prosecuted and convicted of corruption. It would seem the rewards outweigh the risks. If there is to be any chance of this bill passing, there will have to be a huge input from the upstate gun owners to gain the necessary activity to pass this bill.

This is not only a bill to strengthen ther Second Amendment, but really could be a victory for those who believe that everyone deserves due process and justice. Neither one is in the SAFE act.

Budd Schroeder

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